You Don’t Need Spider-Man to Have a Civil War

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Before Marvel announced the line up for ‘Phase 3’ of their cinematic universe there was talk of a Civil War. Rumors had flooded the Internet that Robert Downey Jr. would not only star in Captain America 3 but the title of the film would ‘Civil War’. With this news confirmed everyone had expressed excitement as well as the surprising fan boy knit picking: “It makes no sense; there aren’t enough costumed super heroes! There are no secret identities, THERE IS NO SPIDER-MAN!”

For some the equation is simple enough, Marvel minus Spider-Man does not equal Civil War.

Well my friends, I hate to break it to you but you don’t need Spider-Man to have a Marvel Civil War. Now, don’t get me wrong. I’d love to Spider-Man in a Marvel Studios film. Seeing RDJ’s Stark mentoring then betraying Andrew Garfield’s Parker/Spider-Man would be amazing. Hell, seeing Spider-Man in a Marvel Studios film would be incredible! But people are missing the key and essential point to the Civil War and its underlying message. That story was not about unmasking. It was about accountability and the government’s role in all of our lives.

They actually hinted at this in Marvel’s The Avengers film. Remember when at the end of the movie they played that montage of grateful New Yorkers getting Tony Stark goatees and Captain America shield tattoos? There was also that new clip from a Senator that asks about who is accountable for the damages down to the city. “Who are they? Where are they now?” It’s actually a valid question and the first thing that popped into my head was CIVIL WAR.

Yet, how could there be a Civil War? Tony Stark announced that he was Iron Man. Captain America/Steve Rogers has an entire Smithsonian exhibit dedicated to him. Black Widow met before a highly published government tribunal. That really just leaves Thor, Hulk and Hawkeye but given that Clint Barton is a SHEILD agent I don’t think they’ll bat much of an eye. Thor is Asgardian and Banner is on the run. Is it worth having a civil war over two character’s identity? Maybe not. Yet whether are not we known their identity doesn’t change the fact that someone has to be accountable.

The Avengers ended with The Battle of New York with no one to clean it up and leaves Stark with PSD and a fear of wormholes. Winter Solider ends with the collapse of SHIELD with Hydra rotting from its core. Age of Ultron is about Stark creating a robotic police force to release the Avengers of that accountability. Of course we all know how that goes horribly wrong. And who was at responsible for all of that? STARK. With everything that he is responsible for and everything that he has endured it does make a lot of sense for Stark to go along with what government plan is creating to get the heroes in line. Stark must finally see that the road to hell is in fact paved with robotic gears and good intentions. All that he has ever wanted to do since the first Iron Man back in ’08 was “to help the people.” Perhaps now he sees that you can’t beat em’ join em. Now with Rodgers being totally disillusioned from his arctic nap and the collapse of Shield I can see why he would be against teaming up with the government and finding that whatever they are up to is in fact unconstitutional.

With no Spider-Man and no secret identities there is still room for this War. At press conference in Hollywood Kevin Feige a.k.a The Watcher explains their Civil War:

“… The generalities of the act are the same. Something happens, perhaps it’s cumulative for things that have happened though all of the movies leading up to this point. It has made the governments of the world say ‘we need to have some oversight of these guys. They need to report to somebody.’ So it becomes more… it falls under that umbrella, rather than ‘you have to take off your mask.’ It’s not about the secret identity thing, as much as it is about, overall, who reports to who, and who can agree to oversight committee. Because as of now, in Avengers 2, there is no more security council, there is no SHIELD, obviously. Stark is paying for it, Captain America is running it, and things occur that will make governments begin to question.”

If we examine the films and the characters that we have been introduced to then we can see that this is natural progression in the MCU’s story telling. The characters that are forced to live in this world would, at this point, be fed up with heli-carriers falling out of the sky, Aliens attacking New York and London, and a giant robot reciting Pinocchio. Of course they would want some body to answer for this. However it does beg the question how is the government going about asking for accountability that would make Cap run from the government? Side note, this would have been a great opportunity for Stark to become the Iron Patriot! Or what if Marvel is going to pull twist where its Captain America is supporting the registration act and Stark is on the run? Unlikely, but hey you never know!

I understand the love for Spidey; our little web head. He is the conscience of the story; its heart. We ultimately share his view point. He is the one that is caught between the robotic demon and the patriotic angel (or vice versa depending on your view point) and so are we. It’s easy to share in his confusion and it is something that I will miss in the film, that’s not up for debate. However the idea of the Marvel Civil War can endure in films so long as it stays true to its message, even if it is missing it’s red webbed heart.

 

 

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Before Marvel announced the line up for ‘Phase 3’ of their cinematic universe there was talk of a Civil War. Rumors had flooded the Internet that Robert Downey Jr. would not only star in Captain America 3 but the title of the film would ‘Civil War’. With this news confirmed everyone had expressed excitement as well as the surprising fan boy knit picking: “It makes no sense; there aren’t enough costumed super heroes! There are no secret identities, THERE IS NO SPIDER-MAN!”

For some the equation is simple enough, Marvel minus Spider-Man does not equal Civil War.

Well my friends, I hate to break it to you but you don’t need Spider-Man to have a Marvel Civil War. Now, don’t get me wrong. I’d love to Spider-Man in a Marvel Studios film. Seeing RDJ’s Stark mentoring then betraying Andrew Garfield’s Parker/Spider-Man would be amazing. Hell, seeing Spider-Man in a Marvel Studios film would be incredible! But people are missing the key and essential point to the Civil War and its underlying message. That story was not about unmasking. It was about accountability and the government’s role in all of our lives.

They actually hinted at this in Marvel’s The Avengers film. Remember when at the end of the movie they played that montage of grateful New Yorkers getting Tony Stark goatees and Captain America shield tattoos? There was also that new clip from a Senator that asks about who is accountable for the damages down to the city. “Who are they? Where are they now?” It’s actually a valid question and the first thing that popped into my head was CIVIL WAR.

Yet, how could there be a Civil War? Tony Stark announced that he was Iron Man. Captain America/Steve Rogers has an entire Smithsonian exhibit dedicated to him. Black Widow met before a highly published government tribunal. That really just leaves Thor, Hulk and Hawkeye but given that Clint Barton is a SHEILD agent I don’t think they’ll bat much of an eye. Thor is Asgardian and Banner is on the run. Is it worth having a civil war over two character’s identity? Maybe not. Yet whether are not we known their identity doesn’t change the fact that someone has to be accountable.

The Avengers ended with The Battle of New York with no one to clean it up and leaves Stark with PSD and a fear of wormholes. Winter Solider ends with the collapse of SHIELD with Hydra rotting from its core. Age of Ultron is about Stark creating a robotic police force to release the Avengers of that accountability. Of course we all know how that goes horribly wrong. And who was at responsible for all of that? STARK. With everything that he is responsible for and everything that he has endured it does make a lot of sense for Stark to go along with what government plan is creating to get the heroes in line. Stark must finally see that the road to hell is in fact paved with robotic gears and good intentions. All that he has ever wanted to do since the first Iron Man back in ’08 was “to help the people.” Perhaps now he sees that you can’t beat em’ join em. Now with Rodgers being totally disillusioned from his arctic nap and the collapse of Shield I can see why he would be against teaming up with the government and finding that whatever they are up to is in fact unconstitutional.

With no Spider-Man and no secret identities there is still room for this War. At press conference in Hollywood Kevin Feige a.k.a The Watcher explains their Civil War:

“… The generalities of the act are the same. Something happens, perhaps it’s cumulative for things that have happened though all of the movies leading up to this point. It has made the governments of the world say ‘we need to have some oversight of these guys. They need to report to somebody.’ So it becomes more… it falls under that umbrella, rather than ‘you have to take off your mask.’ It’s not about the secret identity thing, as much as it is about, overall, who reports to who, and who can agree to oversight committee. Because as of now, in Avengers 2, there is no more security council, there is no SHIELD, obviously. Stark is paying for it, Captain America is running it, and things occur that will make governments begin to question.”

If we examine the films and the characters that we have been introduced to then we can see that this is natural progression in the MCU’s story telling. The characters that are forced to live in this world would, at this point, be fed up with heli-carriers falling out of the sky, Aliens attacking New York and London, and a giant robot reciting Pinocchio. Of course they would want some body to answer for this. However it does beg the question how is the government going about asking for accountability that would make Cap run from the government? Side note, this would have been a great opportunity for Stark to become the Iron Patriot! Or what if Marvel is going to pull twist where its Captain America is supporting the registration act and Stark is on the run? Unlikely, but hey you never know!

I understand the love for Spidey; our little web head. He is the conscience of the story; its heart. We ultimately share his view point. He is the one that is caught between the robotic demon and the patriotic angel (or vice versa depending on your view point) and so are we. It’s easy to share in his confusion and it is something that I will miss in the film, that’s not up for debate. However the idea of the Marvel Civil War can endure in films so long as it stays true to its message, even if it is missing it’s red webbed heart.

 

 

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WGI is at NYCC

WGI head honco Paul and fellow correspondent Bren are at the New York Comic Con, tweeting and putting up Facebook posts that we will share here.

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Comic Book Haiku: Shaolin Cowboy #1

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Cheer Cowboy’s return
with two-chainsaw action and
no damn talking mule.

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Good Comics That You’re Not Reading!

Hi everyone! Been awhile since I’ve put anything on the ol’ blog site but honestly, none of the comics out there right now are really compelling me to write!. I’ve decided to go back through my personal stash and read some of my favorites – some you may not have heard of, and some you most definitely have heard of! In either case it’s important to not forget the glory of a good story, no matter how old (or far back into the closet) they are. So with out further ado, welcome to my new series: Good Comics That You’re Not Reading!

With Halloween just around the corner, I’ve decided to dig up some supernatural stories of yore to get in the mood. While in pursuit of a story, I came across an old Marvel classic on the new-release shelf: Triumph and Torment.

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Mark Anthony’s Hero of The Month

I have decided to add a little more than just my opinion every other week. Every week I will give a you something of the month. This week is “Hero of the Month.” I’m going to start with one of my personal favorites Luke “Power Man” Cage.

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We Got Reviews: Optic Nerve 13

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First I was made outcast because of my love of comics. Then I got into poetry, and solidified my outcast status even further.

Somewhere around the late 90’s, after the comics market collapsed, people starting compared comics to a specialty market like poetry. I’m not sure if I was upset about that. And if so, what side? My comics side or my poet’s side.

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